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09-16-2004, 02:02 AM
How much of a cross wind can a kayak with a rudder handle with a down wind sail handle. We are still looking for a sail to carry on the site. Any ideas?
09-16-2004, 08:01 AM
Joey Thats Not a problem, since the Yaker controls the sail, to much wind just angle the sail to spill the wind off and out, Down wind is the least problem. its Tacking and up wind again its up to the Yaker on how far they want to push it, But I have found that a LEE BOARD is a Must for anything else then down wind,
From the info I have gathered The ezV-sail seems to have what were looking for ,
The One I like Is the EZ V8 Freestyle, since it also has a JIB Sail and 2 stabilizers. List and shipping is $375. that alon will Stop most Yakers but I would say there are those that would pay for a Good Thing Like Myself.
They post Satisfaction Guaranteed http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif,
Plus Sailing a Kayak will be a learning Thing, and after try it ,Its a Blast, Ok so for some to fish and Sail at the same time is NO, But It sure is Great to Get to and Back from a Secreat spot, And to sail on day that fishing is http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Talk about being Quiet and Stealth, Its a No Brainerfor Stalking the Flats,
My only question for the EZ-V is On a Tarpon 120 with the Front hatch location where and How the mast Mounts over the Hatch , foward would be to far http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Aft of the hatch to far back http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Over the Hatch I would have to make a Bridge Mount , Im Calling later to get some answers, you do the same and see if you can get the price down http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif BillW
09-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Joey, the issue for crosswind is the lack of lateral stabiloty from the yak. You'll just blow sideways. Mu gues would be a down wind sail could probably, with a rudder, sail 20ish degrees off downwind? Maybe? Depending on rudder. Scott
09-17-2004, 06:41 AM
http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Ok Scott whats with the Grammer and spelling http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif You got those gloves on again http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif, And going down wind I have done almost 90% in a light wind, the stronger the wind the less angle I can get. but with a leeboard im sure sliding is held to a minimum, , I hope to have the new set up ready by Monday ,A 10ft mast with a min 6ft sail. plus leeboards, and a Jib and Spinnecker on standby http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
Americas Cup Here I come, BillW
09-17-2004, 05:45 PM
I agreeBill, tha litre winns meen hier pointing....sorry, had the gloves on http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
09-18-2004, 06:15 AM
09-19-2004, 06:52 AM
Bill, Bill, Bill,
What is we goin' to do with you boy? After all this hype about sizing, cutting, and sewing different kinds of sails, using different kinds of pricey sail cloth, and making Carol do all this free, sweatshop labor labor for you, then you go ahead and use a BEACH TOWEL for a sail?? Oh well, I guess you can always use it to dry off your yak when you get back...
09-20-2004, 06:15 AM
http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifApalach [AP] Thats my Poncho I used for a sail when I was with The Bone Man [Head]I was proving a point as he was try to take photos thru his Baggie http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
And for the Records Im doing my own Sewing now Carol Gave up on me and the $5,00 sewing machine , BUT I just completed sail #5 I copyed the PolySail SpritSail with Curves in the Luff, Foot and the Leach http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Im talking a almost 6ft Luff, I hope to have the rest of the STUFF by Fri. Mast Mounting moved forward of the Hatch, A new Mast ,Lines, Boom, Plus Lee boards 2, More latter, BillW
09-20-2004, 07:21 AM
WOW--sail #5. Way to go Bill-I know I'm impressed! Hope you are keeping notes--may be a book in the offing??
I never did hear what you are using for a mast mount/holder. How did you finally set that up so that you could move it around and still provide enough stability? To me, adapting a mast holder/mount to different yaks and different hull designs is probably the crucial part of the story.
Yeah, I was going to say that the photo above looked like it was taken thru someone's lunch bag, and I guess I was not far off! Poncho, huh? That might make an interesting story in itself about how one could use a poncho and a rod for an emergency sail...
09-20-2004, 08:47 AM
This past weekend, I met a guy that has been sailing his Aquaterra sik, for many years. His brother was a sail maker.
He was describing the mount bracket as a piece taken from a collapsable canvas shade for a small boat. It looked like a small narrow tray, turned sideways. I did'nt know enough about what he was talking about to remember much, but I could tell he was happy, and had tried a lot of stuff.
I'll be running into him again, and pay a little closer attention. Hope this gives you some ideas.
09-20-2004, 04:12 PM
http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gifIconn4 As long as He and you are Happy Thats whats Counts, Not the Confususion Of STUFF you both seem to Have http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
And Mr. Apalach you have not been fowling along very well, so heres a Refresher Just for You http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Now got back to progress #1 Post http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
09-20-2004, 07:34 PM
Yeah, yeah, Bill, I saw that number when you originally posted it, and I been "fowling" along pretty closely. But you sure as heck do not have that mount sitting free on your deck now, do ya? How did you attach and secure that mast mount to, or on, your deck to keep it from sliding around? Then, how did you secure the mast to keep it from toppling over? You ain't told us those parts of the "rest of the story" as yet. We still be waitin' on those.
09-20-2004, 11:01 PM
judging from the sandwich bag view, you sure can sail a flag. Could that be taking some of the wind from your sail? http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
09-21-2004, 04:39 AM
http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIconn I guess any thing that can grab a pc of the wind Helps, Thanks BillW
02-21-2005, 03:22 PM
Any word on this project? I'd love to hear / see how it came out!
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