2 people in a t160i

[BP]

Think theres anyway it could be done??

[BP]

Think theres anyway it could be done??

[RickP]

Sure, anything is possible. The load capacity is at 375 lbs but its probably not a good idea. Get a tandem if its something you'd do regularly and for extended periods of time. A small child could sit in the tankwell but would get wet with water coming in through the scuppers. Would be uncomfortable including unsafe for two people in the cockpit given the yak is designed for one person.

[Eklutna]

Wilderness system likes to play with there capacity numbers and safety of there customers. The truth is the max capacity of 375 pounds for the tarpon is the point when it stops floating and sinks to the bottom. The real upper usable capacity is around 225 pounds and performance goes down as you add weight greater than that.

[hbrey]

Eklunta-It's easy to see you're dissappointed with the performance of your 160. but I really disagree with you on this one. I weigh 260 and carry another 20 or so pounds in gear when I go fishing. We have 2 160's in our fleet (one old style one i) and I am very fond of our boats. Would they perform better if I were 50 lbs. lighter? No doubt!! But so would my bicycle or my car!! The 160 is as fast as (or faster)than my old OT Loon 138 and much more comfortable and easier to fish from. I have only been on "big water" for a week with it but we did an over 20 mile trip and had them both out in pretty exciting Lake Michigan swells with 15-20 mph winds--was everything I could have wanted. If this boat were only for smaller guys I don't think I'd be so satisfied with ours! I'm sorry you aren't thrilled with your boat but I don't think you're being totally fair to the other "bigger folks" out there by trying to scare them out of a boat they might like if they gave it a try!! P.S. Eklunta--for a boat you don't seem to like very much you sure have spent some time and $$ tricking yours out--It looks SWEET!! Nice job

[Eklutna]

Hbrey

Yes I am displeased with WS not printing accurate information on capacities. I would really like to shame them into printing accurate information. It is hard to make an informed decision on what kayak to buy when many kayak companies including WS print deceptive or unusable capacity information. I have other issues with WS as well. If you look at the WS add for the Pungo they have spokeswomen boasting “ I feel that I can go anywhere in my pungo”. Oh really, talk to the two guys that flipped there’s in the ocean. Take one out in to heavy surf and play around. How about taking one out into eight foots waves in the ocean. I think there advertising is could put a novice in a life Threatening situation. Given the increasing popularity of kayaking I think that it will be sooner rather than later that one of these companies gets sued (because of a death) for there reckless advertising.

I was able to solve the problem with the Tarpon 160i not floating level and jetting water up into the cockpit every time I hit a boat wake. I cut up a 5 inch pool noodle and plugged the four scuppers around the seat, top and bottom. I glued these plugs in and they are permanent. This added a little flotation. Plugging the scuppers in the tank well prevented water intrusion into the tank well and gave me additional flotation. I used the plugs from the foot wells for this purpose. This leveled the kayak in the water. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, well that is not going to happen. My next kayak is going to be a Eddyline. I will say that I fish from the Tarpon often in creeks and Rivers.

[lconn4]

using some type of weighting, fore or aft will often help the paddling characteristics.

[CADDYSHACK]

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink2.gif Ekltna

I'm going to have to agree with "hbrey" I to am a big guy and carry a lot of gear. I paddle on average 8 miles in the backcountry. And when I go onto the open ocean I tailor my gear only in fear that I might lose it. I have'nt been out in 8 foot swells but I have been out when it turned into 4 foot swells. Newbies will always do dumb things thats why they are called newbies. If you cut someone off in traffic you chance an accident, dumb ,,,,, yes but many people do it everyday everywhere. You can't control what people will do. If you dont like your tarpon 160,,, sell it, I'm always looking for a great deal. http://kfs.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?s=418607442&a=ga&ul=161107247 http://kfs.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?s=418607442&a=ga&ul=462102653 http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[calfarmli]

I've had my 98 lb.Grandson fishing from the back of my eXtreme without a problem with stability or paddling.I would not go into water that is rough.His behind got wet but that's about it.Cal

[LunaSea]

I agree about the rampant false advertising by yak companies; not only about weight capacity, but about the true weight of the kayak itself. I've said this many times before, and I'll say it again: When I bought a Malibu Extreme last year I was expecting a yak that weighed what they advertised...57 lbs. But when I put it on a scale (before adding anything to the yak) it weighed 80 lbs. http://kfs.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Funny how FIBERGLASS yaks weigh what their manufacturers say they do, but the POLY yak manufacturers tend to grossly underestimate the true weights. http://kfs.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?s=418607442&a=ga&ul=853102653 And I suspect that they'll keep doing it until they either get sued or 60 Minutes knocks on their door.

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Life's a beach.

[Eklutna]

Lunasea

This problem with the advertised kayak weights goes back a couple of years. I have a Folbot that I bought back in the eighties and it was advertised as weighing 70 pounds. The truth is that it weighs one hundred pounds with nothing added. Needless to say, It is a bear to put on the roof of a SUV.