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Old 10-30-2006, 05:46 AM
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I test paddled an OK Caper Saturday and really liked it, so I'll most likely be buying one soon.

The one thing I didn't like was the closure method on the 6 inch "O" hatch in front of the seat (it's the Ocean Kayak style where you screw it in). I realize the watertight advantages to this screw style, but I really prefer the "Twist-N-Seal" hatches on the Hobies (similar to the Cobras)

According to my retailer, the 6" hatch on the Caper is an option, so I was thinking I would order it without this option, then order a 6" Twist-N-Seal hatch from Hobie and get it installed (or maybe try the install myself)

Just wondering if this is do-able, and if there are any disadvantages or issues I should be aware of.

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Old 10-30-2006, 05:59 AM
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Here are some links/pics which show the 2 different styles

Ocean Kayak "screw" hatch:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...k_1920_1792652

Hobie Twist-n-seal hatch:
http://www.austinkayak.com/catalog_details.php?ID=245
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:42 AM
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no, the hobie hatch is larger then the area. You'd have to do a bunch of modification and with the flexing of the hatch area in an OK it would be problematic.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:26 AM
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Thanks JonS, man I'm sure glad I asked. I thought this was gonna be a no-brainer

Are there other 6" twist and seal hatches out there (similar to Hobie's) that WILL work nicely with the OK caper? It doesn't have to be from Hobie, I was just using them as a reference.

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Old 10-30-2006, 11:15 AM
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Avoid the hatch altogether. It WILL leak.
Spend your money on a nice dry box.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:25 AM
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diverden,
Thanks for the feedback

Are you talking about ALL "O" hatches in general?
Or just the twist-n-seal kind?

I've used the twist-n-seal kind (Cobra and Hobie) out on a couple of lakes and estuaries and didn't get any leakage. So perhaps you're referring to if I go out into the ocean?

I'm hoping to stay with the hatch idea as I really like using one. It's perfect for all my stuff I want close at hand, but want stored away. I've tried using drybags & boxes, but I far prefer the hatch idea.

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Old 10-31-2006, 06:19 PM
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I have never seen a dry screw-in hatch on an OK. I can't speak for all hatches in all kayaks.
But water is a penetrating force; it will find a way into any boat. Good luck.
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I agree, don't put a hatch in it. I reccomend regularly not to put hatches in the center of OKs. There's simply to much flex and the hatches bind to much. They're bot worth the bother. Save t he money and put it into something useful or your pocket.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:45 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Dang, I was really hoping to install the hatch option and use a twist-n-seal style.

I'll get the kayak first (w/o hatch) and then figure out what I'm gonna do
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Old 11-02-2006, 04:36 AM
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If your determined to have a center hatch you need to rethink the Caper.
You might want to look at these models. They all have much better hatches than OK.
Hobie Quest
Cobra Escape
Malibu Mini
That does not speak to the performance of these boats, just that they have pretty decent hatches. After trial and error I have found that if you dont want it to get wet; don't take it on a yak. Cameras MUST be waterproof. Cell phones, VHF, FRS. all should be in drybags or of waterproof design. Wallet, keys, firearms all must be kept in dry box.
Clothing stuffed in a dry bag and placed in bow hatch. Do not squeeze air out of bag. It serves as flotation also. Also no loose items on a yak; everything needs to be tethered or bungeed.
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